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Laura Jane Grace and Genesis Breyer P-Orridge Discuss Gender, Identity, and Caitlyn Jenner: Listen

on August 26, 2015, 1:05pm

This week, Genesis Breyer P-Orridge of Throbbing Gristle/Psychic TV and Laura Jane Grace of Against Me! sat down for an in-depth discussion on The Talkhouse podcast. Over the course of 60 minutes, the two musicians dived deep into conversations surrounding gender, identity, and the process of transitioning in the public eye.

When discussing whether a person is defined by his/her physical appearance, P-Orridge explained that, “In the end, the body is not the person; the body is not the thing, it’s the mind that matters.” Also, while they both acknowledge Caitlyn Jenner’s bravery, they don’t necessarily want her to be the “spokesperson” for the transgendered community. In fact, they believe that the way the media’s been portraying her experience “could end up being really, really damaging.”

Listen to the full podcast below.